An old woman had some chest pain and shortness of breath, or at least that’s what she told the staff at her nursing home. Saying things like that leads to a predictable series of events. The supervising doc was notified, a trip to the ER was approved, and the patient was loaded up into an ambulance and transported next door to us.
Who knows if she was really experiencing these things — she had fairly advanced dementia and the validity of anything she said was questionable at best. Just a few weeks prior, however, she was brought to the ER and ultimately admitted for what turned out to be a small heart attack. With her advanced age and declining mental function her cardiologists opted to treat her non-invasively with medications only. End of life discussions were held, but a DNR order was never authorized by her family.
She had a pleasant kind of dementia. She smiled when I talked to her and thanked me for listening to her heart and lungs. She had big pale-blue child-like eyes that stared vacantly into mine as I told her we’d run some tests to make sure she was ok.
Those tests came back essentially normal leaving me with a decision to make. What I wanted to do was send her back to the nursing home, knowing that this was all probably nothing. Even if something more omnious was lurking on the horizon, I reasoned, heroic measures at this point in her life were just kind of silly. I wished that she had family with her so I could explain the situation and have them assist me in the decision. But she was there alone, and at three in the morning I wasn’t going to wake someone up to have that kind of conversation over the phone.
So instead, I decided to admit her. I did it because I knew there was a small but real chance that she might significantly worsen over the next few days, and if she did that I would probably get sued. Nevermind that she’d been around since the Woodrow Wilson era, with a body now naturally giving out and a mind that progressively continued to withdraw into itself.
I called the cardiologist, who was unimpressed by her clinical details and not particularly empathetic to my situation. I next went to tell the patient she was being admitted, and watched her eyes fill with tears. She begged me to let her go back to the nursing home so she wouldn’t have to be separated from her husband any longer. She became more and more agitated to the point where she started throwing up, and I finally had to sedate her with some ativan.
I later sat back and reflected on everything that had happened, feeling generally lousy about the whole thing.
June 23, 2008 at 10:16 pm
Hey! New post!
Dementia is a sad deal…One of my least favorite things to deal with…I’d rather fight a drugged out patient then deal with a sweet little old lady with dementia.
June 23, 2008 at 11:11 pm
If you can’t send the patient back for whatever reason, remember the availability of 24-hour observation status. Medicare will *heart* you and so will the patient. Troponins #2 and #3, baby.
June 24, 2008 at 3:41 am
I take it that her husband had been dead for 20+ years…
June 24, 2008 at 4:59 am
Perhaps, it was at that point that the family should have been called.
They are, perchance, the ones that placed her in the nursing home.
June 24, 2008 at 6:19 am
I agree with Tex. Poor lady.
June 24, 2008 at 8:32 am
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June 24, 2008 at 9:56 am
I too agree with Tex. It’s hard to say that her family was erroneous or negligent to send her to the nursing home. It could have been something they had to do for whatever reason. It doesn’t mean that they don’t care, love her and would graciously accept a middle-of-the-night call from a physician. In this situation, it would be best to err on the side of caring and love.
June 24, 2008 at 9:58 am
in a sick way, i like to know that other people feel just as horribly as me when the situation doesn’t work out the way we had hoped.
i know that shitty feeling all too well.
sorry.
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June 24, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Ugh. I can certainly sympathise with you there
June 24, 2008 at 7:35 pm
Aaahhh, the decisions we make while treading in shark-infested litigious waters are not the ones we want to make. Scumbags.
June 24, 2008 at 9:58 pm
It’s such a mess. I am sad every time I am in an ER and I see a ninety-plus person on a stretcher, waiting to be admitted. I’m not a doctor, but I know what the problem is…”you’re ninety!” I want to say. Let her go. Eventually we get to the point where we are keeping bodies alive when they should have gone home long ago.
June 25, 2008 at 2:40 am
Intractable vomiting and mental status changes in an elderly post-infarction patient = easy admission.
It’s all how you sell it. No reason to feel bad about it.
June 25, 2008 at 5:50 pm
At that point if there was no family to assist with the decision I would have sent her back. Just document you were doing what you felt was the best and least traumatic thing for the patient.
June 26, 2008 at 1:11 pm
Maleesha, I totally agree with you. I work as a legal assistant in a malpractice firm, and whenever we get cases where a little old lady has died, even due to obvious negligence, I just want to say LET HER GO. We have like three of them right now, and it just makes me sad…even if what happened to her wasn’t right, it was certainly her time, right?
Trismus, I think you made the right call. That cardiologist has a cold heart (ha). Don’t feel bad.
June 28, 2008 at 6:42 am
As a doctor, what would your recommendation be if your neighbor suffered from dementia and her family did not oversee her? They have to realize just how out of it she is but yet, they leave her living in her house alone and rarely come by. She gets very paranoid sometimes and every once in a while gets really angry. It’s really sad.
But as a regular joe, is there anything we can do to get her help?
June 28, 2008 at 2:52 pm
But ativan in an elderly demented woman? You might have been giving the hospitalist more of a gift than you even intended…
June 29, 2008 at 3:42 pm
I also think that the family should have been called. They needed to see what she was going through in order to really decide if no DNR was what they wanted for her. It’s sad.
July 3, 2008 at 12:11 am
It is difficult to know how involved family is from the paperwork that accompanies a nursing home patient.
Waiting until normal business hours may result in a more reasonable, more agreeable response from family to the suggestion of writing a DNR order.
July 3, 2008 at 11:14 am
*hug*
July 5, 2008 at 8:32 am
I would want the 3 a.m. call. Love your bloog:)
July 5, 2008 at 8:32 am
Oh God, did I really just write bloog?